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Wisdom of Crowds on Reddit & Jobmine

January 17th, 2006 4

I’ve [unsubscribed from Slashdot](http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006081.html), in favour of [Reddit](http://reddit.com).

To the casual reader, Reddit is a page of interesting links. To hardcore Redditors (the “mob”), it’s a steady stream of [fresh content](http://reddit.com/new), each piece to be evaluated as a candidate for the +1 vote of confidence, or the -1 vote of dismissal. Accumulate enough points—quickly enough—and it’ll appear on the front page of the site.

Perfect system, right?

Wrong.

### Lazy Sheep

Why give editorial control to an elite group, when it can be in the hands of a pure democracy? **Wisdom of Crowds** is an appealing notion. Then again, the rebuttal is also appealling: “if the crowd is 1000 stupid people, what good is the aggregate of their erroneous opinions?”

But really, the problem is not that users are dumb. The problem is that they’re *lazy*. On Reddit (and [also Digg](http://mashable.com/2006/01/10/digg-and-the-so-called-wisdom-of-mobs/)) otherwise smart users are following the actions of previous users, who may or may not have made valid judgements.

Go ahead and visit the [Reddit New page](http://reddit.com/new). See those articles that are already in the negatives? What about the ones that have a score of -1 or even just 0? Wouldn’t you rather check out a link that’s already been voted up to 3 or 4?

It only took the negative opinion of **two users** to condemn a page to Negative Score land. Now the chances of it being clicked and evaluated without prejudice are—to my mind—significantly lower.

**What’s the solution?** In Reddit’s case, I believe that on the “New” page, the current score of every article should *not* be shown. It’s fine to display it on the homepage, but freshly submitted articles should be evaluted, at least for that first hour, on a level-playing field.

So where does **crowd wisdom** come into Jobmine?

### Jobmine

[Jobmine](http://www.jobmine.uwaterloo.ca/) is the University of Waterloo’s online tool that helps streamline the job application process for students.

One feature added last year was **an indicator showing _how many_ applications had been received for each job**. Sensible, right? Gives the students a bit of perspective about what they’re up against. If 70 people are applying for 1 position, that’s 70 vying for probably 8-12 interview slots, of which only one will be selected.

Browsing through the system on the eve of a deadline, it’s obvious that some jobs simply attract a lot more attention than others. One may see in excess of 200 applications, while another has barely 20.

Is it *just* that one emphasizes its “casual, fun-loving atmosphere,” while another lists MS Word experience as an asset?

When the spread is as wild as it sometimes appears, I have to wonder if there isn’t a pendulum effect. Those jobs with the astronomical application numbers—does an already high count entice even more curious students to check them out?

### Jobs & Links

While the “number of applications” counters on Jobmine may not serve any immediately obvious purpose, in the end, I doubt they hurt much either.

If a lazy student only applies to the jobs being applied to by everyone else, they clearly aren’t taking the co-op process very seriously.

It’s in this way that Reddit and Jobmine are fundamentally different beasts: Reddit provides momentary slices of amusement; Jobmine is a portal to an interview, and ultimately a 4- or 8-month commitment to an employer.

Whether high numbers or low, So far I’ve at least briefly scanned every single Mechanical and Mechatronics job description—plus a good deal of the Systems ones, too—and applied to those I’m genuinely interested in. Those where I can see myself being able to contribute, and where I see potential to expand and learn new things.

Because really, that’s what co-op is all about. Not just chasing the jobs that everyone else seems to want.

Mike

Discussion

  1. See, I have a hard time with what you’re saying about Jobmine. The lazy student (i.e. me) does not apply to a very popular job. He applies to a job where very few people have applied (within reason), so that there is no need to write a cover letter to have higher odds of getting an interview. One only applies for a popular job if it is worth the effort & the low odds of getting an interview.

    I’m at the point where I’m sick & tired of doing the jobmine bit, so I’m going through & looking for jobs where only a few people have applied, and evalutating those. I have no desire to apply for a job, even if it’s relatively cool, where I’m competing with 200 people for 1 position. It’s not worth the application, unless it’s one I really want. (i.e. one I wanted before I saw the posting).

    Posted at 7:22 am on January 18th by Christine.

  2. It’s true that there’s that opposite approach of chasing the jobs that appear to have the least number of applications.

    Nevertheless, I think for the majority, it’s the sexy automation control stuff that has the greatest appeal. It’s clear from a quick scan that those jobs which attract the least number of applications are the ones obviously labelled “IT Person” or “Web Developer.”

    I enjoyed my two terms of web dev; it was a great experience. But I’m also excited to explore more “hard” engineering.

    Posted at 12:38 pm on January 18th by Mike Purvis.

  3. “…it’s the sexy automation control stuff which has the greatest appeal.”

    Yes. Yes it does.

    Posted at 6:39 am on January 19th by Ryan Gariepy.

  4. It’s really strange for me to see my friends and others not read through job descriptions before applying to jobs. I spent quite a long time, but at least I know that I’ve applied for every job I could be of use to, and not applied to the jobs I won’t get. And that I’ve read 150+ job descriptions.

    Posted at 11:28 am on October 3rd by Denis.

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